So, after much consideration of the various waterless toilet options that would work for our home, we opted to buy the Seperett Villa 9000 from a company called A better way to go. Before we purchased the toilet (and all of the supporting materials), I spoke to Carol at A better way to go on the phone. Her customer service and product knowledge was brilliant, and she was able to give me the reassurance that the product would work well for our situation and was also able to give me a quote for exactly what I wanted, including freight, within the day.
After ordering, our loo, the two Aerobins and the consumables we ordered arrived within two days. All of the boxes were light and easy to carry and would have fitted into a station wagon, but took two trips in Stu's small hatchback.
Toilet in a box! |
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The toilet out of the box. |
The written instructions that came with the toilet were pretty vague, but the video on the website is very handy, though you do need to have a bit of a clue when it comes to renovations and some ability to think creatively for the installation. A few things were involved. First we had to remove the existing toilet and work out a way to seal the pipe that the waste used to go into. We chose to divert our urine to the septic tank (there are a couple of other options for urine though if you should choose), so used a converter to reduce our 100mm pipe to a 25mm pipe and connected this through the existing hole in the floor into the existing plumbing. As we have very limited under floor access, this was fiddly and involved some bad language, but not too hard. The toilet also has to have a pipe for the exhaust fan to blow through. We piped ours directly out of the back wall and then away on the outside of the house. Not hard again, but you have to be brave about cutting big holes in your walls :)
The power plug is simple, though as with most toilets, we don't have a powerpoint in there, so it is still currently running on an extension cord - we will eventually have a powerpoint installed so we can get rid of the extension cord. And the final part of installation is screwing the unit to the wall or floor - we chose the floor as it was easier and felt more stable.
Having installed the toilet, our family were all very keen to be the first to use it! I won! It is mostly like using a normal toilet without the flush, but with a few differences. First of all, when you sit on the seat, it lowers an extra couple of centimeters as it pushes down the button to open the privacy flap. This makes a 'clunk' sound and feels a bit off putting until you get used to it. I find I need to sit just a little further forward than usual in order to make sure that urine goes in the front and not in the bucket (you don't want a bucket full of wee!). Poo and toilet paper go in the back without trouble, and except for the lack of a 'splash' feel pretty normal. Unless you want to, you don't have to see the solids in the back, so there is no need to check out what others have done in there, the privacy flap closes over neatly when you stand up again.
For girls, the toilet runs pretty much as normal. For kids and men, its a little different. The privacy flap is just that, for privacy only, and not watertight. So if men stand and wee haphazardly at the toilet, you can end up with a bucket full of wee. There are two problems with this, first it fills the bucket quicker and impacts on the composting later, and second it causes more smell. So we encourage men to sit for everything. Our rule is that if you want to stand you go water a tree! For kids, the toilet comes with a children's seat which easily clips onto the regular seat and directs wee and poo from smaller bottoms into the right spots - my kids cottoned on very quickly, but visiting kids need a hand and if you had a very little one, it might be worth leaving the seat on and removing it for adults rather than the other way around.
Smell from the toilet is most people's concern. It says on the website that it doesn't smell, but to be honest, we were all a little dubious. But truly, it does not smell! The fan takes away all smells, not only from the toilet, but the whole room. We have our kitty litter in that room too, and now never even smell that. The fan literally takes the smell directly out, so even entering the room straight after a bloke has been in there for his daily sit, there is nothing to smell! Only once have I smelt it, and it was a really hot day. We simply bumped up the fan to level 2 for a while and it was better in no time.
As far as I'm concerned there are only two things I don't like about using the toilet. First, the seat is flimsy plastic and I don't like it! You can change the seat, but it is a little tricky to get one that will fit right and press the button for the privacy flap. The only other thing I don't like is a real girly problem - that time of the month when things get a bit messier. But I deal with it, and just use a cup of water to 'flush' the front of the toilet when I need too.
Toilet installed, complete with instructions for use on the wall, kids seat and 'wee wipes'. |
Oh, and guests sometimes are a little frightened of the new loo, so I put up some simple instructions that I wrote for them.
As a family of four, I find that the bucket needs emptying about every two and a half weeks. Though it may be less often when the boys are at school, Stu is at work and we don't have all of the holiday visitors we've had recently. Emptying is really very simple. The toilet comes with 3 buckets and 2 lids and you use biodegradable bags in the buckets (though I may move away from these and just use a sheet or two of newspaper in the bottom once I'm out of bags). Once I know the bucket is full, I prepare a new bucket and grab a lid. Then it is simply a matter of opening the toilet and popping the lid straight onto the full bucket. Honestly, you don't even need to see the contents. The lid can be clipped on and the bucket removed. I use this opportunity to give the inside and outside of the toilet a thorough clean with some of my homemade orange cleaner and a soft rag. The whole toilet is made from plastic, so you don't want to use any abrasives, but it is really easy to clean and I feel like it is actually staying cleaner than our old toilet. The new bucket and bag are then put in and it is ready to go.
Meanwhile, the full bucket needs to be emptied. We opted to buy two of the Aerobin composters at the time of purchase, to save on postage, and also so that we have a new one to go onto once the first is full (the humanure needs a 12 month composting period before it can be spread around the garden). Emptying the bucket is easy. You carry it to the compost bins, and then before you remove the lid of the bucket, gather up the handles of the bag and open the compost heap. Then simply remove the lid and quickly deposit the (untied) bag into the compost. There is a moment there where you get a lovely fragrance of a couple of weeks worth of poo, but it is over quickly.
Our two Aerobins look neat and unobtrusive in the garden. |
And that's it! In about 18 months, we'll have our first load of composted humanure to spread around under our trees, and we will have saved heaps of water and helped out our sick septic tank :)
We are very happy with our new toilet, and are happy to answer any questions you might have, ask away!
PS. If you use a lot of toilet paper, the bucket will fill very quickly. Everyone in our house has cut back on toilet paper, and as the only girl, I've made up some cloth 'wee wipes' after seeing the idea in a Grass Roots magazine. These are used for me and also for if there are any drips on the seat from the boys. Since having them, our toilet paper consumption has dropped heaps and the bucket fills slower. But of course, these are a very personal choice.
You know it is probably a little alarming how excited I got when I logged on and saw you'd blogged an update on your loo lol
ReplyDeleteThis was very handy and honest, so thank you for taking the time to type it in for us....I am still thinking on the toilet thing...as the husband refuses to have anything to do with it, but I am now a whole lot less nervous about the whole idea. Do please put a post up when you get your first load of compost....I'm interested to see how the aerobins go too. :)
LOL, the fact that people had been asking for posts on my toilet was a little funny too!
DeleteIf he isn't keen it probably isn't worth playing with the idea yet, but just keep it in the back of your head. I also think that it would be a great idea for renovating or putting in a second toilet (outside? in the bathroom?) as it doesn't need plumbing in really. The alternative for the urine diversion is something called an Ejector tank that collects the urine which is then diluted and put on the garden, so you wouldn't need a waste outlet at all. I'm of the belief that two toilets is a little extreme, but then there are times when I am filthy from the garden and would love an outside loo, or other times when even in our family of 4 there is a queue - maybe one day I'll build a dunny.....
Thanks Tracey for the review! We've been looking at waterless toilets too and are planning on getting the exact same loo.
ReplyDeleteWe currently have a pit toilet in a nice old-fashioned outdoor dunny. I don't like the idea of using the pit toilet lobng-term so we are thinking of moving the 'dunny' closer to our shed home and installing one of these inside.
I like that the urine is collected separately. What have you been doing with the urine? I like the look of their Ejektortank. T
It really is a good loo, would be interested to hear what you think too if you get one - am sure it'll feel very luxurious after your pit toilet ;)
DeleteBecause we had the septic tank already, we connected the urine outlet to that. The ejector tank seems a great idea, but the urine needs to be diluted 1:10, and I wasn't prepared to always do that. But again, let me know what you think if you get one!
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ReplyDeleteThx for a great review
How is the smell outside the house, from where the fan is ejecting the odor
Hi!
ReplyDeleteDirectly near the outlet, it is a bit smelly. It blows out the air from inside the bucket, so you don't want to be sticking your nose too close! Ours is in our chook pen though, so we don't notice it, and I expect that if you put it up high enough, you wouldn't either.
Ours is located near our hot water service though, so when we recently had a plumber come to work on that, I turned off the fan for a while :)
Hi Tacey
ReplyDeleteHave you used the compost from the aerobin as yet? Is your bin in the full sun? I have ours under shady trees - not sure that's really the best place for it - as it seems to get very dry. Any suggestions. I've added some water - and wetter vegetable material, although still seems dry. Do you mix the contents or just put the bag in the composter and leave it?
We am using the same system as you in our shack, so far all seems to be going well. It seems to last us around 12wks before I have to change the bin which is pretty good although I noticed that the plastic bag has started to decompose.
Any suggestions would be handy
Hi Ruth, thanks for visiting! Not sure i can give you much advice though. We're nearly one year in and expect to have filled the first aerobin in another month or so. We then plan to leave it to do its composting thing for 12 months while we fill the other bin. Our bins are against a fence facing east, so not full sun, but they get a fair bit and the air feels warm in them. From my experience with other compost heaps, shade isn't the best as the compost needs to be warm to breakdown. We don't mix ours at all, we are hoping the aerobin design with make it unessesary as its not really something you want to be mixing :)
DeleteI was considering not using the bags for a while and just putting newspaper in the bottom of the bucket. Hubby is not so keen on that idea, so we'll stick to the bags, but perhaps a couple of sheets of paper in the bottom of the bucket (before the bag) would be useful for you in case the bag breaks down. Either way, I think it's a great thing to know the bags are really breaking down!
Good to know someone else out there who is using the system. Hope my thoughts are a bit helpful to you.
Tracey
Thanks for the reply Tracey. I may have to relocate the aerobin I think. But, the newspaper trick at the bottom of the bin, _why_ didn't I think of that :-).
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